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Post by Sacco & Vanzetti on Oct 20, 2004 9:17:48 GMT -5
The Autonomous Zone is a region of 15 anarchist "nations" within NS.
This is their world factbook entry:
"We are a revolutionary labour movement that uses as its only means of struggle direct action in all forms. We are independant from all reformist and hierarchic unions and political parties, we are creating an alternative to these and to existing society. We do not seek to gain politcal power, but rather to see it distributed equally amongst all. We are a federation of autonomous anarcho-sydicalist groups practicing co-operation and mutual aid. We have no leaders. All members have an equal part in the making of decisions."
I have two suggestions:
1. We should invite The Autonomous Zone to "map" themselves adjacent to our regional map, either to the east or west.
2. We should invite them to share this forum, creating three main bulletin board areas, i. A shared forum for members of both to post, ii. A forum exclusively for tAZ members, iii. A forum exclusively for tACA members to post (as we have now, in fact, but with the first two areas added)
There are a number of reasons why I suggest this, here's some of them - anarchists and libertarian communists need as much mutual support as possible, by sharing a forum we all become aware of each other's issues, by sharing a supermap we can protect each other better from hostility.
Neither of these options involves formal alliances or agreements. These may, or may not, evolve with time. Neither region would be diminished, in any sense, by either of the suggestions.
Any opinions?
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Post by theyellowspot on Oct 20, 2004 10:47:39 GMT -5
s&v, i like it. according to someone on their they've hear rumour of nazi takeover. while getting a UN delegate may help them out, maybe we can as well.
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Post by Sacco & Vanzetti on Oct 20, 2004 14:59:32 GMT -5
Making clear I had no mandate but that it was a personal suggestion only, I floated the ideas past them. They are having a discussion about it but seem quite positive.
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Post by theyellowspot on Oct 21, 2004 16:21:44 GMT -5
should we have a (semi?) formal vote on this? or does it seem to be to small of an idea to warrant bothering? i personally really like the idea of having some sort of alliance with TAZ, does anyone have objections?
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Post by Sacco & Vanzetti on Oct 21, 2004 17:28:50 GMT -5
We probably need to hear more opinions. WC, AIM, and W&T usually comment once they see something posted.
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Post by Walter and Theodor on Oct 22, 2004 3:05:50 GMT -5
W&T is all for this!!! Well done S&V!
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Post by WyrmTribe on Oct 22, 2004 3:25:33 GMT -5
I am all for the plan, but I would like to inject this...the bigger you get in size, the more it attracts the attention of invader regions who need to prove themselves. I recommend that some sort of talk go forward about how raiding happens, how to protect regions from it, how info would get transmitted, that sort of thing.
And yes, those Nazis can be a problem...they have leveled regions before, and they seem to get a kick out of taking out the "commie" ones especially. (their emphasis, not mine)
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Post by claptonpond on Oct 22, 2004 7:13:45 GMT -5
Sounds like a good plan to me.
As for defence, does tAZ have an active founder? I think that's usually sufficient protection from region-crashers, isn't it?
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Post by theyellowspot on Oct 22, 2004 10:59:21 GMT -5
...the bigger you get in size, the more it attracts the attention of invader regions who need to prove themselves. but the way i understand it, this won't actually make us "bigger", it's more of a share of resources, right? Being fairly new to the game, i've never seen any hostile actions taken, can someone describe how this happens? |
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Post by Walter and Theodor on Oct 22, 2004 11:21:09 GMT -5
I am starting to think we can consider this go but it raises another issue - I think there is going to be call for more board moderators.
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Post by Sacco & Vanzetti on Oct 22, 2004 13:10:58 GMT -5
I'd like to hear from Workers' Communes on this issue.
Particularly as it would certainly require one member of The Autonomous Zone become a moderator, and possibly more from tACA.
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Post by WyrmTribe on Oct 22, 2004 22:44:53 GMT -5
Many invader regions do i just for the the fun of destruction. As long as there is an active founder, that helps, but doesn't keep groups like the Imperial Coalition out in some instances. I think everone needs to be aware of the risk that is taken by becoming an ally with another region...you take on a measure of their attraction to invaders by proxy. This is mot to say I think we should be isolationist or anything, but I think a crash course in "invadernomics" might be in order to get us all up to speed.  |
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Post by Sacco & Vanzetti on Oct 23, 2004 2:56:00 GMT -5
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Post by workerscommunes on Oct 23, 2004 14:55:53 GMT -5
I think this is an excellent idea. I seem to remember the name tAZ, I may have recieved a tg from them a while back.
I think perhaps a new forum for libertarian socialist/anarcho-communist nations of all regions would be the best idea, perhaps with boards for each region that joins. I only say this as inviting them to join our current forum may seem like we're trying to destroy their own regional identity. Of course, if individual nations from other regions want to join our forum though, they should feel perfectly free to do so.
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Post by Sacco & Vanzetti on Oct 23, 2004 16:26:18 GMT -5
I think this is an excellent idea. I seem to remember the name tAZ, I may have recieved a tg from them a while back. I think perhaps a new forum for libertarian socialist/anarcho-communist nations of all regions would be the best idea, perhaps with boards for each region that joins. I only say this as inviting them to join our current forum may seem like we're trying to destroy their own regional identity. Of course, if individual nations from other regions want to join our forum though, they should feel perfectly free to do so. I floated the original two ideas past tAZ and, although they aren't really bothered about the map proposal, I believe they are all pretty much in favour of sharing our forum. I'm not sure about the idea of having an entirely separate, shared forum. That would mean a total of three separate fora in three separate places and would somewhat dissipate the idea of collective awareness. I still believe it would be beneficial to share one forum with three top-level areas, one shared, one tAZ, and one tACA. They seem very relaxed about coming and sharing this space. If it means we all use one place, I certainly have no objection to the tAZ forum being higher on the entry page than ours, with the shared one at the top. I'll invite them over to continue this debate here and hopefully finalise how everyone would like it to work. |
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